The Missouri public defense system has been shaped by lawsuits that the ACLU has brought forth. Meet Anthony Rothert, one of the individuals behind those lawsuits. Anthony is the Director of Integrated Advocacy at the American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri and is here today to give you the inside scoop on the cases. You’ll learn the ins and outs of the indigent system in this state, from long wait times to high public defender turnover rates. This episode will leave you with renewed hope that there are people out there working tirelessly to positively change the system for good.