Today, Hunter spoke once again w/Bob Kolstad and for the first time Veronica Surges. Both are public defenders in the state of Minnesota, and they joined the show to discuss how they organized a strike authorization and how that threat of a strike helped them secure the largest pay raises in the history of Minnesota Public Defense.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/259-how-the-threat-of-a-strike-got/id1600528975?i=1000663311760