A little less than a year ago, Hunter spoke with Alexandra Bailey of the Sentencing Project to explore why states like Oklahoma so readily punish the survivors of domestic violence. Today, Hunter returns to Oklahoma to speak with Colleen McCarty and Leslie Briggs from Oklahoma Appleseed to discuss their work in trying to push back against the expansion of the carceral state in Oklahoma. In particular, this conversation centers in large part about the Wrongful Conviction of April Wilkens. With their podcast “Panic Button” Colleen, Leslie and all of Appleseed hope to expose the injustice in April’s case, but also hope people realize that April is one of many women who face the power of the carceral state who are survivors of domestic violence.